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Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby mystery » Thu May 19, 2011 2:32 pm

There's a LOT of people who have been doing Natural Grounding and many haven't got where they want to be in terms of attracting women like a magnet. You can find criticism and stuff like this on various places on the Internet
Natural Grounding @ Urban Dictionary

So... does Natural Grounding work? A few things I can say from personal experience.

1. It's much easier for me to coach someone who is doing Natural Grounding. If a person isn't doing it, it's usually one of the first things I teach, because coaching removes the blockages and limitations which allow Natural Grounding to bring the person considerably higher. Alchemy and Natural Grounding are very powerful together.

2. I hear from lots of people about how Natural Grounding changed their lives. I haven't just heard feedback from 1 or 2 person, I've had dozens of people writing me about it. So it's definitely working for many people!

However, Natural Grounding is just a tool and you shouldn't entirely rely on it to do the transformation for you. YOU should walk your own path and use Natural Grounding and other tools along the way to support you.

In this video, replace "Law Of Attraction" with "Natural Grounding" and the message is the same.
Why The Law Of Attraction Doesn't Work

So yes, Natural Grounding definitely does its job; but you also have to do your job, take action, move forward and use other appropriate tools.

P.S. There's a comment on that video from a woman who said she couldn't listen to the video because all she was my beautiful eyes. I don't think this is due to "posing as a rich man in a poor third world country" ;)
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby jonathondd » Thu May 19, 2011 4:08 pm

Natural grounding definitely does work, the criticism from urban dictionary- the guy just doesn't get the point.

I suppose because it is difficult to explain in words to someone what feminine behavior is supposed to be- and someone who is so used to porn or models of sexuality in TV or magazines don't understand how someone like Palmy is a model of sexuality.

For me it was something I was skeptical about and wasn't expecting anything from and just tried out, and my initial reaction to one of the first videos I was supposed to ground to "Far song Chun-Mah" by Palmy was an instant emotional gut reaction as to what was true and what was not. No girl who is really attracted to a man acts like a porn star, they act like Palmy. And in the back of my mind I always knew it, I've always seen that type of behavior with women that were genuinely attracted to me or just seeing that kind of thing in public.

I think it just is plain harder for some to let their guard down and have it effect them. I always had an attraction for what would be considered a natural women- but years of valuing just skin started to really mess me up and I would think of every woman I saw as a potential porn star. To say that ruined attraction and created anxiety is not saying enough as to how badly that ruined relationships for me.

Truly this is a powerful cultural effect- there is so much thrown out there in the western society as to what constitutes sexual liberation(I.E. the recent Slut walk movement), thats simply taken for granted as a positive evolution of culture. The guy who wrote that entry in urban dictionary truly believes that the only way to get women is with money, and that its impossible to have them attracted to you otherwise. Not only does he insult all women in 3rd world countries that way, he also insults himself since that sounds like he wouldn't believe that he'd be able to attract any women without money.

Personal experience probably has a lot to do with those types of beliefs, my mom came from a well off family and married my father who was dirt poor- she left everything for her love to my dad and didn't mind it one bit.

I've been with women who've constantly showered gifts on me and bought me all kinds of things without me ever asking, especially when I was in situations where I lost a job or something like that just because they loved how I made them feel.

Perhaps that person has never seen that things like that happen so without the evidence in front of him its hard for him to believe such things are real as day. That attraction between a man and a woman is more powerful than anything else- that there's a reason that real women get uncomfortable around men that stare at them like pieces of meat unlike in porn, that a woman who's with you for your money doesn't really like you at all.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby seek » Fri May 20, 2011 12:27 am

Well I am very happy with the results that I get from natural grounding. I had some crazy stuff keep happening but what's funny is that when I get really busy with work and don't do as much natural grounding my results go down.

Like right now I'm working most of the day towards a deadline and when I go out not much happens. I'm cool with that because when I get back into NG I know things will pick up again. Although to be honest I'm spending a lot of time with my girlfriend so meeting women is not really a priority right now but I still want to get back to NG because I enjoy it so much and it actually does a lot for our relationship.

It's funny that two guys I know (who are on "that" forum) complain a lot about how it doesn't work for them yet I remember posts they both wrote here where they got very good results from NG. One of them even didn't talk to a woman who sat next to him on the bus because he was too "angry" at women of something. That's fine if they don't want to do it but I think it's silly that they spend so much of their energy trying to "disprove" it when there are lots of men really happy that it works for them.

One thing I used to get really angry about is this theory that the reason western men are successful in Thailand is because of money. I say "used to" because A). I've cleared out a lot of negative emotions with EFT and I react less to negativity now. B). I've heard the theory so many times it's almost like a stuck record now and I just know how ridiculous the whole idea is because of my life experience.

I dated a woman in Thailand for three years, she is a lecturer in a university, she's financially independent, yet she has Palmy's open energy, warmth, carefreeness, great communicator. I had a wonderful relationship and we had an awesome time together yet I myself am not currently or was a rich man (although I will be and I'm working towards it now) and I didn't need to pretend to be rich to get her. I never gave her any money and she never asked for any. A lot of her close friends (that I've met and seen in photos) have the same open energy that she does and are financially independent.

When I met people in Thailand I found them to be very curious and open, not wanting anything at all.

I meet Thai and Filipino women in London and they have the same openness, warmth, easy to talk to, very flirty etc. On many occasions I make eye contact with a Thai or Filipino woman and they literally start smiling and flirting immediately like you're an old boyfriend they are still very fond of. Now if they were just looking for a rich man in London they wouldn't go after me. I dress nice but I don't come of as rich. There are plenty of rich men in London they could chase after but they don't. My guess is that most of them are like my ex from Thailand, they want a real connection.

I have met women from other countries that have a similar openness and warmth to Thai women so I know that the energy that Palmy has is very universal and any woman can have it as long as she removes her social conditioning. I use to go to San Francisco once a year to meet women and had some great experiences there. To me many women in San Francisco have a similar energy to Palmy. The warmth, openness, kindness to strangers, happy for the sake of it. Of course not only would showing of my money not work in San Fran but there are many men there who are way richer then me. When I used to go to there it was during the dot com boom so if I was trying to use money to get women I wouldn't stand a chance yet I had a great time meeting women there. San Fran as a city has a similar vibe to Thailand for me. It's heavily influenced by eastern philosophy.

I've heard from many independent sources that Finland is supposed to be a great place to go. Some random guy I met in Amsterdam a couple years ago kept telling me that I needed to go to Finland cause the women would love me there. Yet Finland is like one of the most expensive countries in Europe so I can't imagine that Finish women are desperate for cash.

I also noticed Belgian woman are really open to. I get along great with Chinese and Japanese women to. Japan used to be one of the richest countries in the world I think and although it's recovering from a horrific earthquake and tsunami I imagine that it will be financially strong again in the future. China seems to be doing very well at the moment. I also generally get along great with Eastern European women to. They are always easy to talk to and really friendly yet the ones I meet are living and working in London so they are not poor in the slightest. One eastern european woman who is really open and and very approachable is studying law. My ex from the Czech Republic is financially well of yet she has great energy and I never had to pretend to be rich in order to get her.

So this whole theory of "the only reason guys are successful in Thailand is because of money" has being proven wrong to me so many times. It's very limiting and I actually think it's kind of racist when guys say that. Anyway it's kind of ironic because I want to go to Thailand again (maybe go with my girlfriend) but I don't have money at the moment, yet when I meet Thai women in London they flirt with me. So literally my current situation is the complete opposite of that theory.

Also, strange question but if it were true that women in Thailand only liked western men for their money then why would Palmy act like Palmy? Why would Jenny act like Jenny? etc. They are rock/pop stars. They are financially independent yet they have the great energy that they do. Are rock stars in Thailand desperate for cash to? I don't think so.

No girl who is really attracted to a man acts like a porn star, they act like Palmy.


Exactly, my girlfriend doesn't even know Palmy and is not Thai at all (she's spent most of her life in the UK) yet she has the exact same facial expressions from "Far Song Chan Mah". It's almost like she is deliberately copying Palmy's mannerisms the way a great comedian would copy the facial expressions and mannerisms of Politician and get exactly right. It's like a universal language that women have to communicate to a man "I like you".

I've been with women who've constantly showered gifts on me and bought me all kinds of things without me ever asking, especially when I was in situations where I lost a job or something like that just because they loved how I made them feel.


Yeah I'm having the same experience myself.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby seek » Fri May 20, 2011 12:38 am

Another thing I want to mention. Both times I went to Thailand (and also when I went to San Fran), when I cam back crazy things happened with women. Western women in London were much more open and flirty to me and sometimes very direct. Also I was a different person when I came back. I felt stronger, more hopeful, content and at peace. Basically just like NG except I got the energy from being in the country. Both times I went to Thailand in 04 and 06 I had results like NG but I didn't hear about NG until 08 and didn't start doing NG until 09.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby Axeman » Sat May 21, 2011 1:29 am

However, Natural Grounding is just a tool and you shouldn't entirely rely on it to do the transformation for you.


This is what I don't understand. I agree that other things such as alchemy are good tools. But I don't understand why people say that natural grounding can't do it alone because I remember that Marcus said that that's all he does and he got some of the greatest documented results. And I'm not sure about rion, but I thought he used grounding as his main tool when he was transforming back to an alpha.

I'm not where I thouht I'd be at after 1.5 years of grounding, but I have made collosol improvements for myself. But I was pretty bad and pretty addicted to porn, so my transformation is taking a little longer. Plus I haven't really had a lot of hours worth of "proper" grounding.

But regardless I have had some crazy results from grounding
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby mystery » Sun May 22, 2011 6:50 pm

Rion traveled all around the world, lived in many cultures, goes out meeting people, networks, organises house parties, etc. He also went through "trial by fire" as he talked about in one of his books.

Not everything happened by just staying in his living room!

Looking at all the comments I'm getting on the video "why the law of attraction doesn't work", it looks like many people are very attached to the idea of the magic pill that makes everything possible *without having to do anything*.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby camaleon » Thu May 26, 2011 5:16 am

Y E S .
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby jared2010 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:34 am

mystery wrote:

P.S. There's a comment on that video from a woman who said she couldn't listen to the video because all she was my beautiful eyes. I don't think this is due to "posing as a rich man in a poor third world country" ;)


I jogged wearing a sweaty shitty t-shirt
and got lots of positive attention
from people, so one doesn´t have to
pose as a rich dude to change contact
w/women. (a year ago.)

and yesterday was watching your
"HowToDoDistantHealing"
vid and my sister was kinda "lookin´" too, hehe.
(We are at my parents house now.)
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby mystery » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:05 am

jared2010 wrote:and yesterday was watching your
"HowToDoDistantHealing" vid and my sister was kinda "lookin´" too, hehe.
(We are at my parents house now.)

What does she look like?

I'm definitely not posing as a rich man in this video. Actually I was in the middle of painting my apartment. It looks much nicer now :P

The other day I was at the market with my girlfriend and a lady at the market said "where did you find this gringo?" Gringo is a white foreigner. Then she added "I should drop my husband and start looking for a gringo" haha. 15 minutes later, walking in the street, a girl walks by 20 meters away, turns around and exclaims with so much passion "oooohhhhh que lindo sus ojos!!" (how pretty eyes!)

You get used to it. You don't need to get women to treat you that way to build great relationships with great women, and having all that attention doesn't build relationship, but it's certainly entertaining!
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby Rion » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:54 pm

natural grounding absolutely works...it's just whether you're affected and influenced by the higher conscious, causal energy or not.

removing or fading your filters (all ego which includes social programs and ignorance) are a big part of the equation to BE influenced holistically beyond the mind.

if you don't, you'll keep filtering it through your current lower conscious experience of reality as those who aren't experiencing personal results with it.

you could use grounding on its own as a technique but (now) i don't.

it's been a primary foundational element but now i'm doing all kinds of things with it and around it (all of which i refer to as 'awakening') that really open up all kinds of transformational healing and growth as well as empowering grounding even more.

i encourage a broader yet action-driven strategy. for realigning your energy and attracting women naturally, n.g. may be the best non-physical authentic technique.

in the future we may have 'live' polarity healing/calibration @ events with a physical natural alpha/goddess (;...yes a great new idea that we'll manifest in the future). and highly conscious men calibrating/healing women

if n.g. isn't working, you're just not conscious of 'what is' and its profound quantum-ness, you're still ego filtering it. if you've plateaued, there are infinite levels of power to experience when you take on more of a kaizen/conditioning and awakening approach.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby Axeman » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:26 pm

I feel like Marcus had success with grounding alone. Maybe he did some more things. But I've been grounding for so long now that I would like to give all the credit to grounding when I do become a natural. I just have to consistently do it while never watching porn.

I understand that holistic growth is really what the key is. But I feel like grounding is holistically building me up because of how open I start feeling around others after grounding. And I was always closed off and very shy around people I didn't know.

I would like to believe that I can get to where I want with grounding and relational mastery. But lately people are saying a lot of things about how grounding to only yin energy might not make you masculine enough or that grounding isn't enough and suggest a whole bunch of other techniques.

I just don't want to be spinning my wheels if all I'm doing is natural grounding.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby zuprion » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:43 am

The 3 part formula is:

-Natural Grounding
-Relational Mastery
-Meet Women

Always go back to basics each month, or don't leave them in the first place. It's not about which videos or girls you like. It's about getting grounded so your physiology is grounded in masculinity so you create and build polarity. Once you experience this in your body, you'll have a huge aha moment and suddenly understand why Rion is so persistent and has so much conviction. Each part is equally important though in making everything come together.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby mpgamer55 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:00 am

lol. posing as a rich man.

I had thai broads buying me stuff! Guess I shouldn't have let that girl take me out for ice cream and movie! I definitely shouldn't have had that other girl drive me around on her motorbike touring phuket for 2 days without paying her dime! (actually should have paid her for gas lol) Definitely shouldn't have let that one girl (I took to the beach for free) wait on me hand and foot for 3 days, bringing me meals, and rubbing aloe gel on my severely sunburnt legs!

Although I did buy another girl 2 whole beers at the lounge before letting her stay the night at my hotel for FREE.(I should have charged her rent :/) Good thing I'm rolling in the dough or that woulda cost me BIG.

Yep! I'm one rich white sombitch! Now if you'll excuse me I have to get back to work @ my $10 an hour call center job... oh wait, fuck.
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Re: Does Natural Grounding Work?

Postby jared2010 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:09 pm

mystery wrote:What does she look like?



There´s a blinding paradigm...
:P
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