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Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby camaleon » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:03 am

Hexagram in Thongchai 'Perd Floor'
Thongchai 'Perd Floor' LIVE concert 2007 (3-8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopxZEBKk5M

This is also part of Open Polarity Grounding:
http://www.naturalgrounding.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=114
Here is Lesson #9's video which can be used for multiple variations of grounding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopxZEBKk5M

What we have here:
Right. An hexagram, but there are something more, a triangle (pyramid) with something like a flying bird (Horus perhaps) in the middle.
Man, you're getting emotional while you're watching a witchcraft symbol!
And the girls have some golden containers when they're inside the circle and right after that they are like 'throwing' the spell or something like that.
They all end doing a pyramid formation.
The crowd is very happy, but they don't know they're a part of that ritual.
So now, do you want to get emotional about that?
Again, It's your choice. You're free to do it.
Just be aware of the possible consequences.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby jonathondd » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:35 am

There probably aren't any possible consequences. Symbols only have power if you give it to them. I can say with absolute confidence that it doesn't give me any vibes whatsoever, I don't really care about a hexagram it has no significance to me. People of eastern countries have different beliefs in spirituality, if you want to condemn them all as witchcraft and satanic its your right. But I think it shows ignorance and a lack of understanding. Of course just my opinion.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby jared2010 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:00 am

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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Morpheus » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:33 pm

sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich shows ths same thing.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby camaleon » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:58 pm

There probably aren't any possible consequences. Symbols only have power if you give it to them. I can say with absolute confidence that it doesn't give me any vibes whatsoever, I don't really care about a hexagram it has no significance to me. People of eastern countries have different beliefs in spirituality, if you want to condemn them all as witchcraft and satanic its your right. But I think it shows ignorance and a lack of understanding. Of course just my opinion.

At first I respect your opinion, because everybody is free to believe in anything.
I don't want to convince anybody, the facts are there.
At first I thought that all about Natural Alphas was good and they're all innocent, and good girls, etc.
Now I'm not so sure.
Besides we don't really know those girls face to face.
So we don't know what they true colors are.
Obviously they don't seem to be like Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera, et al, but who knows them deep inside?
And no, I'm not condemning them, it seems like they're condemning themselves, whether they know the symbols they're displaying or not.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby jonathondd » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:02 am

Morpheus wrote:sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich shows ths same thing.


I'm not sticking my head in the sand like an ostrich. Just that things like that don't scare or effect me. To me its like being scared of a tiny ant- I mean it doesn't look anything like a human(and upclose it looks kinda scary) but its completely harmless.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby jonathondd » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:07 am

camaleon wrote:
There probably aren't any possible consequences. Symbols only have power if you give it to them. I can say with absolute confidence that it doesn't give me any vibes whatsoever, I don't really care about a hexagram it has no significance to me. People of eastern countries have different beliefs in spirituality, if you want to condemn them all as witchcraft and satanic its your right. But I think it shows ignorance and a lack of understanding. Of course just my opinion.

At first I respect your opinion, because everybody is free to believe in anything.
I don't want to convince anybody, the facts are there.
At first I thought that all about Natural Alphas was good and they're all innocent, and good girls, etc.
Now I'm not so sure.
Besides we don't really know those girls face to face.
So we don't know what they true colors are.
Obviously they don't seem to be like Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera, et al, but who knows them deep inside?
And no, I'm not condemning them, it seems like they're condemning themselves, whether they know the symbols they're displaying or not.


Well from what I know(I'm not sure if you and morpheus are on the same page all the time), your beliefs would follow that you think everyone who is bhuddist, hindu, shinto, or not of the Judeu-Christian path is condemning themselves and lined up with satan worship. Feels to me like you're kind of condemning an entire part of the globe. Correct me if i'm wrong here.

But remember when it comes to Natural alphas- the entire point isn't that they're heavenly Angels who can do no wrong. But that their behavior constitutes TRUE female nature and sexuality- as opposed to the fake nature we see in pornography or all over the media in the united states. Humans are humans and they'll do bad and good throughout their lives, right. Its quite irrelevant to me when I'm grounding if a natural alpha is also a petty thief- I'm only putting value on her feminine behavior that's it. Again I think things only have power when you give it to them.

Pagan symbols don't bother me in the least because they don't hold any power to me, if they do its just an illusion. I prefer to see people as misguided rather than seeing them as having negative intentions towards everyone. Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Morpheus » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:07 am

I'm not saying that buddists and hinduist's are satan worshippers. I personally got a lot from buddism and hinduism. And my time in the new age taught me to connect with the world of spiritual. But it won't be enough to save you from what is coming, and it is trying to take praise from God. We ARE moving into a one world government, the authorities are not there to serve our best interest.

I'm just trying to point what is really going on to people. As Tupac said "they don't give a fuck about us".
As long as they can keep your attention focused elsewhere they have won.

Take a look at the book of revelations, every propechy has come true. We're almost at the end of the book.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby jonathondd » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:16 am

Morpheus wrote:I'm not saying that buddists and hinduist's are satan worshippers. I personally got a lot from buddism and hinduism. And my time in the new age taught me to connect with the world of spiritual. But it won't be enough to save you from what is coming, and it is trying to take praise from God. We ARE moving into a one world government, the authorities are not there to serve our best interest.

I'm just trying to point what is really going on to people. As Tupac said "they don't give a fuck about us".
As long as they can keep your attention focused elsewhere they have won.

Take a look at the book of revelations, every propechy has come true. We're almost at the end of the book.


Well I'm a believer in Quran and I'd say what prophecies have come true are all very subjective.

I know what you mean that the mass media in general has other private interests. That government and essentially world government plans have been expanding(began with the league of nations). Every single government always ends in failure in collapse since the beginning of time, so would with any world government. Just because the authorities are moving in that direction doesn't mean its feasible or would last very long(its certainly not financially feasible, as the american empire is figuring it out for itself right now).

But that's beside the point. What I'm saying is that hey if there is something like a hexagram in a NG approved resource. Does that mean that the resource itself is going to hurt you? Or that the people behind the resource are evil? Or that they had any intention with the hexagram other than it looks cool? No I don't think so at all. Is there a possibility? Sure there's a possibility for everything. But paranoia isn't helping anyone. All things return to God anyway, let things run its course there is nothing to really be afraid of. You can die in a car accident tomorrow, why live in fear?
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Morpheus » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:27 pm

Ahh the Quran the Islamic religion. Did you know that it was created by the Jesuits so they would do all the stuff that the Jesuits didn't wanna?

http://www.youtube.com/user/panchoco187 ... vj_Rp-UuKo

EDIT: I am not afraid, "fear not these demons that kill the body but not the soul". "I'm trying to free your mind" Morpheus The Matrix
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Axeman » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:05 am

I prefer to see people as misguided rather than seeing them as having negative intentions towards everyone.


Very good JonathanDD. I don't think we should shun people out when they make poor life paths. Yeah, it's their fault, but they just made a poor decision which we all do on different levels. The world would be a much better place if we all had this compassion rather than judging others actions.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Morpheus » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:23 am

Really? So Hitler was just misguided he didn't have negative intentions? what about Aliester Crowley who boasted hundreds of child sacrifices? or the new world order? or all the people helping bring this about?
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Rion » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:10 pm

this is an ultimate test of relational mastery. i'm keeping this post here as a lesson that we all learn something from.

i noticed 'it' right away when i first saw the resource and never liked it. i still don't approve of the symbol b/c i think it's trying to influence or say something which just takes away from the purity of the message. something that i grew up with as knowing was representative of evil. but i've evolved beyond the games of social influence.

it was a p'bird concert, not a showgirls concert. that symbol from what i understand represented something very different (matriarchal society) before religion's turned it into something as 'evil'.

either way, as a relational mastery of my reality i choose to not let that affect me. i'm independent from it.

the most advanced is when you can truly separate it and be in a different relationship of empowered energy. i'm not attributing or associating any energy to the symbol. i'm not getting emotional about it. i'm just not letting it AFFECT me in any way.

nor will i hold back the infinite shakti energy represented there b/c of some controversial symbol. it's the ego that still will spoil or taint things but the ultimate relational mastery will get and apply what i'm saying.

it's kind of like if you were talking in a conversational group and there's one slightly annoying bad energy quiet person, but you drown him out and don't him any attention because you are in a strong communication relationship with a high energy woman. what you focus on gets your energy.

when i'm grounding i'm not giving it any energy or being affected by it, i'm effectively not making any judgments (and am now to reference it but i truly CAN separate my personal/ego from the shakti), i choose to avoid it entirely even though on my egoic level i would strongly/personally prefer if it wasn't there in the first place.

being in more non-egoic states for longer periods of time gives you that advantage and ability that very few western people i would say ever have yet. b/c i spend most of the time (grounding) in non-egoic states (sexual, emotional, physical and spiritual in the absence of ego sense), i have power to silence and drown out my social and personal beliefs (if any).

i don't get sucked into games of power and influence. so even though this crap exists out there and drama and conspiracy theories, it's how you let it affect you.

it's not that i'm atheist but i'm about the truth of energy, not political, religious or social power games. what if we could see the world 'as it is' without the (often) manipulative games of social and religious power and influence? that's a BIG question.

we can be aware of it, but symbolism influenced by social power and religion is not something i'm into. symbolism representing holistic or basic concepts (like kaizen, freedom, creation, production) in an uncorrupted, unwarped way - IS something i'm interested in.

someone could say that my tattoo's are 'evil' b/c they are mostly in symbolic form (acacia tree for the power of nature, kanji, eagle for independence, etc.) but that would just be retarded ignorance. they would be viewing it from an ego-based judgment founded on ignorance, skewing it from their own socially influenced view of the world.

seek a higher level of truth. it's very advanced to effectively be able to block out the egoic and social influence of a cause like that and to do full open energy grounding like that. but you're doing it to the female energy and that's what you're in (direct) relationship to, like being in line of a big tractor beam laser vs. it being off to the side like some symbol that people have drama about which is limited to religious and social power and influence.

what do you guys think? anyone get anything out of this? i did..just clarifies things more

btw, this is a VERY advanced level of mastery..just talking about this. very few people have even an awareness of this power influence, they're stuck under it and aren't close to effectively differentiating themselves from it.
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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby Axeman » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:49 pm

That's a problem that is holding many MANY MANY people back from seeing the truth and beauty of things. They are stuck viewing things from their socially influenced reality. They shun out any other possibilities. That's why racism pisses me off. Now I think race jokes are hilarious. Because there is one for every race. But when someone actually hates someone because of the skin color, it just seems like the ultimate ignorant judgement to me.

This is great advice from Rion. For instance, if Nicole were wearing an American Eagle shirt, someone who was exclusively dedicated to wearing Abercrombie might get upset and think she was no longer "pure." This is an extreme, (but I doubt that it wouldn't happen in our culture today) but it's the same concept. The Abercrombie "wearer" would have a skewed way of "seeing things", because they grew up only wearing that brand.

Now most can agree that if there is a God and devil, then we would mostly not associate ourselves with the devil and people "on the devil's side."

But the key here is to see past 'which brand name she's wearing' so to speak because it's merely social value. We look past whatever symbols she's throwing up because we are putting ourselves in direct relation to a different value. Her natural value.




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Re: Hexagram in "N.G. approved resource"

Postby mystery » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:28 pm

I haven't read everything said in here but...

How can you know the meaning of a symbol used in a completely different society? There isn't much in common between America and Thailand.

In Mexico it is perfectly normal to scratch your cheek with your middle finger. However, don't scratch your nose as it means "f*** you". It can be confusing at first!

Besides that, good vs evil is just judgments over 'what is'.
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