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Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby aztecsfinest » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:46 pm

Well thats the economy for you. Even the hookers are charging VAT.

I plan on writing a definitive review on Natural Grounding, I think this would be the best time because I'm now completely disillusioned from all things seduction community and self help.
I can spot bullshit when I see it and know genious when I see it. So yeah, just like you... So why should you listen to me?
Well not 'should' you do have a choice. I've been doing it for nearly three years now and I feel that some of the misconceptions (some that are promised) need to be cleared up.

Till later-
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*Title is my attempt at being funny. As a comedian, I try to use self depreciating humour... But I'm not really good at it.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby zuprion » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:20 pm

Aztec, before you write that consider reading my post about the weekend I just spent with Rion and Etienne:

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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby aztecsfinest » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:22 pm

Of course I will! :D

I won't damn NG I'm going to explain all the truths and falses and most likely if people read it will consider it at the end of the day.

Its just that I've been disillusioned now, I no longer see any 'gurus' as gods or natural grounding as the metaphorical cure to AIDS.

I was in a very cynical mood when I wrote some of my posts the other day, I've been screwed over by another 'guru' so I effectively tarred them all with the same brush which was rash.

Sorry if you or anyone got the wrong idea!
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby zuprion » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:49 am

Sounds good thanks. I've seen you pretty high on natural grounding at times and maybe slumping like we all do here and there. The bigger challenge tends to be consistency of results for most guys. However, it's hard to fail once you commit to failure not being an option and make grounding the most important thing in your life, and start doing longer sessions, like 6-8 hurs at a time which I think are better than a couple hours/day maybe 3-4 times a week. Another thing that has helped me a lot now is focusing on a very specific online dating strategy so that if I have an off week for some reason where a woman or two I go on dates with don't work out, then I always have a couple new women to go on dates with just because I got my profile to a point where they want to contact me just by seeing it. This is much better than having to approach and worry about rejection, even if technically your ego is out of the picture if you're approaching. I could care less about how well I approach. I just want to meet women and once I'm one on one with a new one at a quiet sofa lounge, I do well. So a solid online dating strategy can ensure a constant flow of women to set up dates with, which means I can't ever fall back into a slump again where there's no women in my life. Then anyone else I meet while I'm just out in the world is extra gravy.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby mpgamer55 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:49 pm

You don't really need NG.

Go to another country (Thailand).

NG or not you'll get results.

NG is just a way of seeing feminine girls when you are stuck in another country where they are not seen. Which can be a relief.

I agree that some people are expecting it to be the end all be all of humanity. I mean it is damn good and I'm very very happy to see these nice girls on a daily basis since I don't live abroad yet, however, it's not needed for attraction.

I can say that it does help with pornography addiction when you aren't getting laid. It puts your mind back in the correct frame, which is the opposite of what porn teaches you.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby aztecsfinest » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:27 pm

:shock: Stole my thunder!:P

I'm gonna write it anyway!
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby jonathondd » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:28 am

Having just started NG like a year ago, I will say that its improved my relationships with ALL women 5000%. Women that were not attracted to me before see me differently. Women that I used to get into arguments over nearly nothing- wonder why we used to argue at all in the past.

Its been a huge learning process for me and the shocking revelations of what sexuality is vs. what it isn't was very necessary seeing as the fake model of sexuality is all over the place and I was caught in a severe porn addiction that I didn't even realize I had.

A lot of negative thoughts from past bad experiences with women have been slowly melting away- although they come up every now and again, now I know its bullshit compared to before where I used to believe all the lies my emotions told me. I'm a muslim and before I could NEVER see myself with a woman with a headscarf because I thought she was just too boring/plain and unsexual. But I was wrong as I would ignore their feminine qualities completely because I was just looking for skin. Any woman can be fun in bed- it has nothing to do with how she dresses or acts in public, period.

Lol at times I thought to myself that this whole NG thing is crap and that maybe I'm crazy for spending anytime watching these videos- but those negative thoughts ALWAYS came up in times where I felt bad due to things not going as expected with certain women or regressing to watching porn again. Whenever I stay doing NG's my MOOD is just uplifted in general(how can it not when seeing Palmy?), and that is enough to boost your confidence as a man and do what is needed to get attraction going.

When Rion keeps mentioning polarity, polarity, polarity, at first I had no idea what the hell he was talking about- because I was lookin at it like some sort of technique. Then I realized its a state of MIND. The state of feeling like a real MAN, a warrior. A beast with deep inner aggression but the mastery to use it only when necessary. You'll know instinctively what this feeling is when looking at a feminine woman like palmy, because a man could never hope to be truly feminine like she is because we are the opposite.

Just my take on NG.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby dgerman » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:37 am

Zupster,

I think it's very dangerous saying natural grounding should be the most important focus in our life. That's gonna keep you grounding for three years and not a huge improvement. I know there's a ton of controversy over NG. Alot of people felt we would natural ground for a few months and then we would become Don Juan. It happened for some...not for all.

There are so many more important things in life other than natural grounding. Connecting and loving people is way more important. If all you want is banging tons of women(I'm were all guilty of this at one point or another-or maybe every night..ha)then youre viewing women as a meathole and nothing else. I've been guilty of this. This is the porn syndrome.

I think many of us have done and or do natural grounding expecting girls to fall all over and have sex with us right away. ONCE AGAIN IM GUILTY! I used to be pretty damn good with girls. I was cocky. The pussy came to me. Finally, I dated this girl and I lost my "swag" and things went to shit. I've grounded since and well I havent been the same


BUT...I'm so much happier now that girls arent the center of my life. I don't respond to women like I used to but I still respond slightly. Guys life is good and girls should not be the center of your existence. This is the idea of a stimulus/response. Speaking of that idea.

I know this off topic but Ive been meaning to drop my two sense into the debate. Some guys on this forum are so concerned about the STIMULUS/RESPONSE paradigm. Don't fucking worry about it! It's true but its not nearly as important as your think. When your with a women SYNERGY is much more important. You two connecting on a deep level is where its at. Getting caught up in each other's eyes. The real intimacy...so much better. There's much concern about giving up your power when grounding. Rion says your submitting...not exactly...its more synergy...its nature taking place like its supposed to!

Finally, one last point. Now when I ground my egos voice is much softer. You know what changed? I figured that when I'm grounding I shouldn't be looking for something, I should be letting things happen like maybe a natural conversation or normal flow of things. One important word that precedes grounding...you guessed it Einstein...NATURAL!!!
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby Ivanovich » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:37 pm

I agree with Zupster 100%. I could elaborate more but I don´t wanna.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby Rion » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:27 am

yes i'm referring to submitting your ego and blocs to let the polarity open your energy.

my intuition tells me very clearly that the main advice i have for aztecsfinest would be very much the same thing eckart tolle would say and i mean this seriously.

that advice is to build your non-ego. your ego is tormenting you in all kinds of ways and you won't gain control over it until you can learn to silence it and stop valuing how independently 'unique' you are.

i went through that before, being 'proud' of how 'unique' i was in my personality and all of that. but it's very ego-based and limits your greater and sexual self.

building my own 'power self' (emotional, sexual, spiritual, physical = non-egoic) and devaluing my mental 'personal' level has made a huge difference.

now i can trigger natural attraction b/c i more than most have taken my ego COMPLETELY and effectively out of the equation when i connect with women. that's all you have to do.

there's nothing wrong with pure shakti or natural grounding other than how our own ego's would warp, corrupt or filter the truth. it's only our ego that is suppressing the truth of which already is.

your ego will HATE this advice and even hate rion or eckhart tolle. it wants to have control but these answers cannot be resolved within the limitations of the ego (we're talking about sexuality here).

how much of a say we let our ego has (on our own love lives) pends on how much it is controlling our thoughts and holding us back.

try viewing yourself as the 5 channel self (sexual, emotional...selves) instead of lumping everything into your egoic/inner game. you can 'work' on empowering your energy on each of those channels.

but an inner game, ego-based viewpoint will continue to hold people hostage to their true sexual potential. (and this was the basics i was teaching 4 years ago). the only thing holding you BACK is clearly your/the ego.

natural alpha's don't even have n.g. but they don't let their ego create these fantasy worlds or torment them, etc. etc.

view n.g. and other forms of meditation as a way of gaining control over your ego's loud even destructive voice. the ego is the main thing holding us all back sexually with attraction..learn to differentiate and isolate it as i and the other top grounder/appliers have done.

it's relm + n.g. + experience
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby Rion » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:36 am

putting natural grounding or perhaps more globally, the shakti cause or the cause of polarity as the most important thing in your life is actually a brilliant thing to do.

to me, i'd say it's #2 to my actual personal/lifelong destiny but it feeds that so they're both connected.

with the polarity cause as the most important thing in your life, you will then attract INFINITELY more polarity and empowerment from this power energy that you can practically transmute into ALL areas of your life, energy, health, power, influence, attraction, creativity, wealth, etc. and esp. in relationships.

when you consider it as a source of infinite POWER and you view your state or anything you could ever speak, think, create or produce as CONNECTED (that production/production capability balance), it really is a smart idea.

let your ego lead your life if you want but you're drawing from weaker power. i have it (and this is really another thread topic) so that i've clarified my own destiny with my ego so i know the direction i'm going but then MASSIVELY empower and feed it (mostly with peak state and natural grounding power work).

1 supplies the other. so my advice is to ask yourself, how can i transmute this power energy into my own life? or maybe i just want to be a global leading proponent of the polarity cause and voice things that way from this extra empowerment.

: how do we put this as another topic?
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby mpgamer55 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:33 am

So how do we remove or separate from our ego?

Besides just getting emotional/peak state during these videos? Do I just consciously view this as a different part of my character? Or is there some other technique to remove yourself from your ego?
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby zuprion » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:45 pm

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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby zuprion » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:50 pm

I don't know about other guys, but the reason that I think shakti energy is most important is because it liberates both men and women, and right now the planet is in imbalance. For me, the ultimate life also includes meditating on Scripture, as well as practicing presence (being in relation to Eckhart Tolle audio supports this and improves your natural grounding, and any other teachers focusing on the Now) as much as possible, so that presence (no ego) becomes your predominate state throughout the day. There's a point after a while (after about 5-6 mos for me) where presence effortlessly goes on auto-pilot, which is extremely cool. All suffering is impossible. So, you CAN condition over the mind's incessant need to be the center of your attention. I don't care what anyone says. I've done it, although if you're living around people (ego-driven, wanting stuff), you have to keep practicing all the time or the ego can come back in and be the predominate state.

For me, I'm still working on staying fully present around people. I've figured out that people actually are the cause of my issue. After all, I can stay present in nature for sometimes an hour with almost no thought. Why should anything a person thinks or says affect me? After all if it does that means I am holding their opinion which is probably not even an honest one, in higher regard than my own. Logically, WHY would I ever do that? There's always stillness underneath anything that happens. I get thrown off anyway here and there, but each week not nearly as much. Lately I am wondering if Monks who live alone in bliss in nature are the smartest people in the world. Interestingly, I'd say they're also the least needy.

The thing these three practices all have in common is that they are all different yet complimentary paths to the same Eternal Truth which is a level of peace and love beyond the mind and all possible words.
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Re: Two Years of NG and I couldn't get laid in a brothel.*

Postby jared2010 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:24 pm

Yes! I agree with you Zupster, about the Alpha State, it´s when you see the world exactly like God intended it to be. Those are my quote words from the movie Out of Africa.
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